Mugabe outwits PM Tsvangirai again

PRESIDENT Robert Mugabe emerged as the greatest winner from last week’s agreement on a new compromise draft constitution for the country.

BY PATRICE MAKOVA

While the MDCs have been insisting that the July 2012 Copac draft was final and not subject to re-negotiation, the two parties last week eventually gave in to Zanu PF demands.

They agreed to compromise on a number of sticky issues.

This followed a meeting on Thursday where the Global Political Agreement (GPA) principals — Mugabe, Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai, MDC leader Welshman Ncube, as well as deputy premier Arthur Mutambara — finally agreed on the contents of a new charter.

“We have now come to the conclusion of the exercise. We are generally agreed and the finalisation of the draft is now being made. We have at last come to the end of this marathon exercise,” Mugabe said.

Constitutional law expert Professor Lovemore Madhuku said it was clear that Zanu PF had outwitted the MDCs by forcing them to incorporate its proposed amendments.

“They [MDCs] lost out by agreeing to dilute the Copac draft,” he said. “Whatever was positive in the original July [2012] document has been taken out.”

Madhuku, said the proposed new provision which spells out that in the event of a President dying or being incapacitated, the party of the departed head of state would provide a successor, effectively barred independent candidates.

“This in undemocratic,” he said. “They are saying that the only way to get elected is through a party,” he said.

Madhuku, who is also the chairperson of the National Constitutional Assembly, said his organisation was already preparing to mobilise for a “No” vote in a referendum on a new constitution expected to take place soon.

“We totally reject this latest document and the previous ones because they have failed to pass the test of a democratic constitution,” he said.

Political analyst, Clever Bere said Zanu PF managed to squeeze the MDCs and largely got what it wanted.

He said the party always wanted presidential powers to remain intact, which is what was going to happen.

Bere said Zanu PF was from the beginning opposed to devolution of power and succeeded in ensuring that the system of governance was watered-down.

“Clearly, the July draft, as flawed as it was, is much better than this latest compromise,” he said. “Zanu PF has won this contest but the biggest losers, at the end of the day, are the people of Zimbabwe.”

Bere said the manner in which the coalition partners had concluded the writing of a new constitution confirmed that the process had always been about the interests of the politicians and their quest for power.

“Why do we repeat Lancaster House agreement style? Why would the parties agree to something that can only come to effect in 10 years’ time? These guys are not even confident with their agreements,” he said

Crisis in Zimbabwe Coalition director, MacDonald Lewanika said while it was good that Zanu PF and the MDCs had finally agreed on a new constitution, this was not necessarily in the interest of the people but was meant to secure partisans positions.

“Most of the transitional clauses are meant to secure the interests of Zanu PF and address their insecurity over the provisions of a new democratic constitution,” he said.

Lewanika said Zanu PF was insecure and feared that devolution would result in secession, but the issue was now addressed in the preamble which would explain what the concept did not incorporate or imply.

He said the six-year transitional period for a new independent National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) separate from the Attorney-General (AG)’s office would also serve the interests of Zanu PF.

Lewanika said the party was afraid that some of its officials and supporters linked to violence would be brought to book by the NPA, hence the demand for a transitional period.

He said while the separation of the two offices was a welcome development, the only problem was the personalities involved in the offices during the transitional period.

“The assumption one will guess is that the current AG [Johannes Tomana] will take up one of the offices, possibly national prosecuting leadership for a transitional period,” said Lewanika. “Given reservation around the partiality of the current office bearer, this leaves a foul taste in the mouth.”

He said Zanu PF’s fear of a separate constitutional court had also been addressed as there would be a transitional provision to have the Chief Justice, four Supreme Court judges and three new judges sit on the court for seven years.

Zanu PF Copac co-chairperson, Munyaradzi Paul Mangwana said it was “parochial and short-sighted” to say which party position had prevailed.

“When we were negotiating, we were not looking at what Zanu PF and the MDCs wanted, but what is best for the country and the future generations,” he said.

MDC-T Copac co-chairperson Douglas Mwonzora was not answering his phone yesterday.

But the MDC-T Minister of Constitutional and Parliamentary Affairs, Eric Matinenga on Friday insisted there were no winners or losers. He said the new constitution took into account the “fears, concerns and aspirations” of the three political parties.

62 Responses to Mugabe outwits PM Tsvangirai again

  1. George Bachinche January 20, 2013 at 1:37 pm #

    Mugabe vs Tsvangirayi – no intellectual contest. Education serves its purpose. You cannot go on saying it does not matter whether one is educated or not to be a leader. By education I mean good education, of which Tsvangirayi has none. ia found wanting.

    • Sono January 20, 2013 at 4:07 pm #

      @George Bachinche – despite mUgabe’s superior education he holds the world record rate of inflation, 95% unemployment, no water, no electricity, no rubbish collection – don’t blame councils it all starts from central government. What usse is the superior education you stupid brainwashed, brainless imbecile?

      • Mbongeni Sakhe January 20, 2013 at 6:28 pm #

        Education does matter. That Mugabe is evil does not take away the fact that he seems to always outwit Tsvangirai. It is not as if Mgabe does not know what he is doing. He only puts his interests first above everything else.

        • Nazmo January 20, 2013 at 8:17 pm #

          @M Sakhe You are absolutely spot, a good education does matter a lot in our competitive world. Mugabe has used his vastly more superior intellect to outwit and outgun any one of his opponents. Tsvangirayi is just no match for Mugabe and I believe as much as a better person he is, he is not an ideal candidate for the high office of President

        • shapiro January 20, 2013 at 9:39 pm #

          That mugabe outwits tsvangirayi(is ever he did) is academic because its of no use to the country.

      • tomtom January 20, 2013 at 8:52 pm #

        @Sono i do agree with your comment ,some of zanu pf they claim to be well educated ,degrees ,but where is zim now. corruption staterd mid 80s up today. Just a few are filthy rich when the majority of zimbabweans are suffering .they are asking targeted sanctions to be removed so that they could sent there children to the west where better education

      • george bachinche January 21, 2013 at 12:10 am #

        If there is an imbecile it you mate. Mugabe never claimed in all his political career that he would bring wealth to the people. His line is education and indeed he took measures to improve education in the country.

        How much have you paid in tax to claim an entitlement to developed country conditions.

        Carry on believing in the blisss of ignorance and see how far you go. Some of us are liberated in teh knowledge of the limitation that governments in developing countries face. This is why we have, using our own resources built solar panels to heat our homes, We have constructed boreholes to watert our houses.

        Wait for what government will do for you and you will die a miserable person.

    • denny January 20, 2013 at 5:16 pm #

      What good has that “good education” done to Zimbabwe?No one was outwitted in that constitution its just that journalists don’t want to see progress in Zimbabwe.Mugabe and Morgan both compromised their positions.Do you remember Zanu-pf having a list of their own amendments they wanted to see but yo don’t even hear of one of them in the final draft.So how has Mugabe outwitted Morgan?

      • peter January 27, 2013 at 11:34 am #

        i agree, some people dont want progress in zim. we need to compromise in order to build a better zimbabwe

    • bobsled January 20, 2013 at 7:18 pm #

      Ki ki ki George your argument is laughable.So intellect translates into University certificate? Well, you do not seem to know the connection between education, knowledge, wisdom and a University degree.Education is basically learning to live and its can be formal or non-formal. A University degree is just a validation of knowledge by some power structures or political system….therein lies the fundamental connection between power and knowledge especially in the formal sector and therein lies the major fault in your argument.Mugabe got all those degree you gloat over from our former colonial masters and that explains why he hates his own brothers and sisters with passion, he internalized so much of colonial masters’ construction of blackness.In other words he was equipped to function as a colonial appendage not as a fellow black statesman. You are also mistaken to think that the negotiations were between Tsvangirai and Mugabe, there were two other parties involved Mutambara and Ncube both of whom are academically more accomplished than your old bat.Zanu PF gave the nation a mad man and gave him power now all he does with that power is make his brothers suffer and keep himself in power forever.Mugabe is prepared to go down with the country and its actually the other three guys who were to compromise with his parochial demands to save the country from going down with the tyrant.History will see through your premature claims of triumph and superiority of the tyrant….Of course l do not expect you question party propaganda, its beyond your intellect.

      • shapiro January 20, 2013 at 9:43 pm #

        pure genius bobsled. tell them.

      • mukwerekwere January 21, 2013 at 4:56 am #

        Bobsled 1 Banchinche 0

        Well said mate….very well said.

    • P Moyo January 21, 2013 at 2:46 pm #

      We often hear of the President’s intellectual capacity and his ability to outwit political opponents, but of what benefit is this to the nation? Intelligent leaders lead their countries to prosperity, not economic ruin.

    • Chauruka January 27, 2013 at 10:26 am #

      Depending on who is going to win, the tables can also turn, tsvangirai is just a leader otherwise mdc is full of very educated pple. Zanypf were pushing for a party with a seating president to appoint a successor in the event of death or health are they really going to win under free and fair elections?. No ways they are going to test their own medicine.

  2. taguta padare January 20, 2013 at 1:39 pm #

    Vakoma, musangonyora mascreaming headlines ari useless. Please explain in detail the OUTWITTING yacho not kungonyora for the sake of kungonyora mhani

    • grayi sekuru wa tina January 24, 2013 at 11:59 pm #

      thanks Taguta i thot i had missed the whole story but it seems the juno is just writting what madhuku said, which i bliv is sour grapes against tsvangson. remember he is the very same madhuku who wanted to mobilise certain individuals in MDC T to remove tsvangirayi from its presidency. As yes vote for the consitution would mean the end of madhuku`s relevence in the zim political arena sak uyo taneta naye uyo. Maybe tsvangirayi by agreeing he is being the smart one, remember ngano ya njiva narukodzi yekuti panofamba vaviri anefa haazivikanwe. if tsvangson wins the next election he would inherit the same powers.

  3. silo January 20, 2013 at 2:08 pm #

    who the hell z madhuku…kamwewo kamudzvanyiriri zvako kasingade kubva pachigaro…

  4. Majongwe January 20, 2013 at 2:29 pm #

    The whole story smells of rubbish it only serve to boost mugabes ego and madhuku is no longer relevant just as you try to potray him as a saint

    • shapiro January 20, 2013 at 9:49 pm #

      True madhuku is irrelevant. He talks about independent candidates without realising that technically the party given the right to choose the new president does not necessarily have to choose one of its own. What the constitution simply does is give them the right to choose the new president. it does not prescribe that the president has to be from their party. See Mr Madhuku some of us are not professors but we can also think.

  5. john ndebele January 20, 2013 at 2:35 pm #

    It is true that any contest or interaction, confrontation involving Mugabe and Tsvangirayi the sober seasoned and reasoned mature Mugabe will always win why because he knows what he wants, is principled while the latter has no known opinion will change according to mood or the last person he meets. However finally this draft was not about the people but what parties wanted not about COPAC and parliament but what the principals wanted. Ultimately Mugabe was right when he declared that the Principals had the final say while one Morgan Tsvangirayi declared that the draft document was final and would be taken for referendum in its present state while launching the yes campaign for the July draft.

  6. LIUmbez January 20, 2013 at 2:40 pm #

    These journalists can write whatever their want but if you ask the new constitution is better than the patched Lancaster House constitution. Your mistake is to cast Mugabe as the smartest man to ever walk on earth. That old man has a destructive mentality which makes him an eyesore to our politics. Havaite Gushungo.

  7. Rodrick NYIKAVARANDA January 20, 2013 at 2:56 pm #

    No political party can claim any victory. For me Im glad that ZANU PF at last they have respected the voice of the people of Zimbabwe by not contaminating the draft with the 266 so called amendments.As for Dr Madhuku and co. that’s their right to speculate and apply theories,let wait for the referendum and its results.No nation under the sun has a 100% perfect constitution.Society survives on contradictions.There are people who are for positive change and those who oppose it if they feel it fringes on their privileges.I feel the document is better than the 19 times amended Lancaster House one.In fact its improper to call it by that name ,its now a ZANUPF document.Hence we cannot go for an election based on a political party constitution, to do sot is not only unholy but an insult to the people of Zimbabwe. We are not morons and imbeciles. If it is really a British constitution why is ZanuPF all of a sudden support a British document? How quickly they forget that ” ZIMBABWE WILL NEVER BE A COLONY AGAIN”,”KEEP YOUR ENGLAND AND I WILL KEEP MY ZIMBABWE” hence the Lancaster document has no relevance in Zimbabwe.Those who advocate for it are hypocrites.

  8. soulman January 20, 2013 at 2:59 pm #

    yes e’ reporter shdnt say things without clarification. frm e’ way i c it, both parties compromised. plz report objectively, u r potrayin e’ mdc’s as lackn tact.

  9. Sobuza January 20, 2013 at 3:21 pm #

    God bless zimbabwe as it braces for a watershed elections. Viva Zanu Pf viva Zimbabwe

  10. mbuso January 20, 2013 at 3:28 pm #

    The fact of the matter is one Mugabe won,tsvangirai is dumb,he tsvangirai is the least educated of the four ,please forgive the guy he only knows to write his name only,he is not vested with any constitutional knowledge.

    • genius January 21, 2013 at 3:37 pm #

      Mbuso hates Tsvangirayi with a passion. He claims that he ( MT) is very dull yet he overtime has shown that he is a no brainer. It’s interesting though to read his comments which are at variance with what he purpots to stand for. Go on Mbuso go on Mr Unrealistic.

  11. ice January 20, 2013 at 3:36 pm #

    kas vanhu ava vanofunga kut tsvangison haafungewo kani,ndobasa rema advisors ka nhai

    • Prince January 22, 2013 at 9:38 pm #

      If Tsvangson is as dull as you put it, why does he occupy the high office which has eluded some educated guys like AGO, Welshman, et al? Look at Zuma. He outwitted his more illustrous opponent, Mbeki. Education does not necessarily translate to intelligence or widom

      • willard sibanda January 23, 2013 at 9:46 am #

        he was approached by the west to lead a puppet party after they fell out of favor with Mugabe since they thought zimbabwe could be forced to cancel all Lancaster agreements and let the whites continue to enjoy economic advantages they inherited through colonialism, tsvangirai was an ideal candidate for the British because he had courage, outspoken and could be easily waylaid to the extent of fighting for their course in the name of democracy.
        this simply means its not his exploits in the trade union that made him a leader of a party but the strength of the pound and western sponsored media houses that did the most to warrant him the possition he enjoys.

  12. ice January 20, 2013 at 3:37 pm #

    iwe ndiwe usiri educatd

  13. Papaz January 20, 2013 at 3:59 pm #

    People like Madhuku speak from the academic classroom where he is misleading his students that there is a perfect cunstitution somewhere in this world,’do I hear him say Britian’. Madhuku must get himself into serious constitutional business by getting himself an elective constituency forth with. As to the reporter, it does not help to trivialise serious national issues whose finallity will be put to rest after the elections following this constitutional making process. You can then say someone has not just been outwitted but defeated……….

    • Jmasasa January 20, 2013 at 4:35 pm #

      It’s a win-win situation per se as it is helpless to hav stalemate after stalemate

  14. murosvesi January 20, 2013 at 4:20 pm #

    saka outwitted yacho papi ipapo, guys be serious,

  15. Edgar Nhete January 20, 2013 at 6:30 pm #

    AMH is owned by Trevor Ncube who believes hammering Tsvangirai will translate into an advantage for Welshman Ncube his brother.where were constitutional law expert Ncube and the robotics proffessor when Tsvangirai was being outwitted if ever there was such thing?.Just a headline aimed at Tsvangirai but with no substance.shame on this once vibrant media house.

    • bobsled January 21, 2013 at 8:14 am #

      Well said Edgar, the paper has a not so hidden agenda.Tsvangirai has his weaknesses but in this particular case he should be lauded for putting the country first instead of eternally bickering with an old ‘trapped’ Mugabe. This is PATHETIC reporting.

    • Tate'sOwn January 21, 2013 at 9:35 pm #

      Here in zim we nw have a new enemy of the pple’s victory in the name of the AMH newspaper stable u guys are just plain hatters.and the sad thing is u never look for a reason to hate shame on yu….nxaaa

  16. wilbert ngano January 20, 2013 at 6:31 pm #

    Shallow report and a misleading headline.

  17. jj January 20, 2013 at 6:59 pm #

    Handizivi kuti vanhu munoda chii chaizvo.Vanhu vakatadza kuwirirana munovashora,vachiwirirana motanga zvekare kuvashora munhu haana chakanaka anongotarisa zvakaipa chete.Kuna madhuku ndinoti usafarire kungoshora vamwe iwe what have u done even the least worth to the pple of zimbabwe .what u dnt knw is that pple are quiet but they knw u talk rubbish always.To the reporter i say destroy ur image and professional integrity by writing rubbish always it pays to be honest.Lets rally behind our leaders and be united behind them and see wat God wl do 4 us.There is no country in the world with a perfect democracy or democratic constitution.bye

  18. Bothsides January 20, 2013 at 7:02 pm #

    Mamwe ma headlines enyu ve standard ndeekupenga,

  19. kufandada January 20, 2013 at 7:09 pm #

    The constitutional process was a waste of time.All we needed was limited terms for the President which could be achieved by Amendment No.20. The rest could be achieved by robust government administration through acts of parliament.Secondly,if the people of Zimbabwe vote wisely,then the 6 year and 7 year term limits can be reversed through two thirds parliamentary majority of progressive forces.I am glad though that ZanuPF is conceding defeat in the next elections by safeguarding its position through sitting members of the judiciary and attorney general’s office.There is a clear message there that this is a transitional process and should be welcomed for what it is worth.

    • shapiro January 20, 2013 at 9:59 pm #

      They think they are safeguarding their positions but will get the shock of their lives . They should ask Kunonga. The judges will be out to clean their reputations tainted by associating with zanu pf. Wait and see.

  20. Papaz January 20, 2013 at 7:32 pm #

    ‘Mugabe outwitted Tsvangirai with the robotics professor Mutambara and law professor Ncube meer bystanders’, I think the headline should have screamed. Then Zimbabweans would now know Tsvangirai is fighting a lone battle, or is he already? It could also now be confirmed the two are an extension of ZANU pf, or are they already? Check your recent sales mr reporter , you continue with this type of reporting, ‘mind the step’. Zimbabweans are no fools.

  21. shapiro January 20, 2013 at 9:34 pm #

    The mdcs were clever in that they realised that time passes fast so there was no need to be fussy about it if zanu pf would take comfort in that and let the country move forward. Remember it has already been 5 years since the 2008 elections.

  22. isusuuuuu January 20, 2013 at 9:38 pm #

    This is not about tsvangirai or mugabe. These reporters have their own agendas I think. Why didn’t they say mugabe outwits welshman. they had to compromise from the start n tht word is very important. If we are to move forward as a country ther z going 2 be a lot of compromise. Tiri kutaura kuti benzi rakabata mwana saka unotoita rekunyengerera uchimbopa zvihwitsi kuti utore mwana otherwise unozviruza ukada kuita zveginya

  23. sotrue Zimbabwe January 20, 2013 at 11:10 pm #

    The reporter has a clear agenda but to say Tsvangirai lost is hypocrysy its e people of Zim tht have lost. A democratic constitution favours people more than it does to politicians. So tough luck guys we lost .

  24. Tsanzi January 21, 2013 at 4:49 am #

    Madhuku mentioned that the current agreement barred Independent candidates. I think it is only academic to think that an independent will ever contest and win presidency. Is it even worth fighting for?

  25. bobsled January 21, 2013 at 8:07 am #

    Its a pity even our journalist cannot see beyond our polarized and toxic party politics.National interests have been lost to them too.Or is it they do not understand the nature of Mugabe and his party…that they would rather go down with the country than give up power.Responsible and patriotic scribes and citizens should emphasize what moves Zimbabwe forward from our current logjam not messaging egos of politicians and feeding into the polarization.Why is the headline specifically pitting Tsvangirai and Mugabe as if Mutambara and Ncube do not exist or matter?So, you think all three men were outfoxed by the geriatric or they did what had to be done to get the country moving forward by leaving posturing to those who fear the people and do not respect them? Tipeiwo maserious…

  26. aka mkhonto January 21, 2013 at 8:56 am #

    If Tsvangson had the country at heart,why did he call for sanctions on Zimbabwe in the first place?You fools conveniently forget that the people had aired their views during the out reach program…which views the MDC factions tried to ignore.

  27. chitova January 21, 2013 at 9:36 am #

    cde mugabe is forever our hero keep it up old man

  28. genius January 21, 2013 at 3:44 pm #

    Does anyone take Madhuku seriously. The only constitution Madhuku would objectively analyse is one he writes himself. Otherwise he is better of remaining an opposing figure to maintain relevance. I understand him very well, nothing is ever good unless he is involved, manje nyika ingaenda kupi nevanhu vane mentality yakadaro. Like a barking dog, just ignore him.

  29. genius January 21, 2013 at 4:24 pm #

    Does Ncube has a vendetta against the Shona people? I mean Trevor.

    • Tate'sOwn January 21, 2013 at 9:38 pm #

      I think,like his name sake he seems to have some problem…taurahako.

  30. Tate'sOwn January 21, 2013 at 9:38 pm #

    I think,like his name sake he seems to have some problem…taurahako.

  31. Zingizi January 22, 2013 at 10:32 am #

    We know that alpha media has a bias towards Prof Ncube and against the PM . You will all recall that in one of his editorial pieces Trevor Ncube was extolling he virtues of Simba Makoni and after he lost miserably, now the professor. It would appear his purpose is anyone other than Tsvangirayi. After having seen the headline on the roads and now having read the article there is such an anticlimax. Nobody has outwitted anyone. So called commentators have to give newspapers something and whether Madhuku likes it or not there will be a constitution by end of year. You either negotiate it like they do or you use whatever powers you have to beat the other party into submission. Those in power politically or financially will tend to have more say in a national agenda like this. So its either we wait for a miracle or people compromise so that we get rid of the increasingly ridiculous GNU via the constitution and national elections. Trevor Ncube, Lovemore Madhuku and all those of similar disposition can campaign, become MPs and if their chosen parties get the majority, effect changes in parliament so that they get the constitution they want. As Morgan, I do not hold any brief for but through him and his colleagues current and former, Zanu’s power will never be as strong as it used to be. So on we we go.

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  35. TM January 27, 2013 at 10:53 am #

    Mugabe, if outwitting is the right action, managed to postpone certain freedoms for Zimbabweans. Zanu-PF learned a lot lessons from Ian Smith and Britain: the 10-year moratorium on land redistribution! As Zimbabweans, we are insanely involved in contests to the point of taking constitution making as an intellectual game between Mugabe and Tsvangirai. The tragedy is that even very enlightened people engage in this unfortunate debate. This explains why Zimbabwe is sitted at the bottom of the well-being scale.

  36. Tahir Iqbal January 27, 2013 at 11:21 am #

    Have you ever thought about what would happen after the next election if the status-quo is changed?The very same constitution someone is celebrating victory over will empower the winner.The same POSA and other laws crafted in hell will be used against the very same people who crafted them.Let’s wait and see who has foresight.

  37. Alex January 27, 2013 at 4:27 pm #

    The point all comments are missing is that the principals are the final deciders on the constitution. We should not have wasted money doing outreach programme. We should have put the four guys in a room to work out the constitution they want. What’s the point of even doing a referendum.We should just wait for the time when we have leaders who think beyond their own interests, then redo the constitution.

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